WILLIAM L. HALL AND MARY A. HALL, HUSBAND AND WIFE, APPELLANTS,

v.

FLORIDA STATE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ANNE CURTWRIGHT, APPELLEES

WALDEN, Judge.

This is an appeal from a Circuit Court order which discharged a writ of habeas corpus after hearing.

Appellants are parents of two minor children. In 1967 the State Department of Public Welfare invoked the jurisdiction of the Juvenile Court based upon allegations that the children were dependent children under the laws of Florida. After a full evidentiary hearing, the Juvenile Court found them to be dependent children and placed them in the permanent custody of the State Department of Public Welfare.

The parents did not appeal as they were entitled to do.1 After the time for appeal had expired, they filed a petition for habeas corpus in the Circuit Court and thereby did collaterally attack and solely seek review of the Juvenile Court order. The impropriety of attempting to use habeas corpus proceedings as an appeal vehicle is manifest in Florida jurisprudence and stands as a support for the decision here on appeal.2

We go on, however, to examine the single question presented to us on appeal by the parents. It is:

“Whether the natural parents of children are afforded procedural due process when they are not parties to an action which results in the placement of their natural children with the welfare department for permanent adoption.”

What are the procedural rights of parents in Florida Juvenile Court proceedings such as this ? 3 It is mandatory by statute that Juvenile Courts, after investigation of the petition, shall summon the parents of the child, reciting the substance of the petition ;4 that personal appearance shall obviate service;5 that jurisdiction attaches to the Juvenile Court when the summons is served on the parents;6 but the inability to notify the parents shall not affect the va*41lidity of the Juvenile Court Proceedings; 7 and hearings shall be provided and evidence presented according to equity proceedings.8 Also, before commitment actual notice to parents shall be made;9 notice may also be by publication;10 or notice may be waived by the parents.11 Although it is not required, an answer by the parents may be made and other pleadings may be pleaded.12

As to the setting, purpose, and emphasis with reference to the Juvenile Court Act, Justice Thornal spoke for the Supreme Court in Noeling v. State, Fla.1956, 87 So. 2d 593, as follows:

“It is perfectly obvious from an examination of the language of the entire Act as well as the consideration of its legislative history and its historical background that it was the purpose and intent of the Legislature in enacting the Act under consideration to provide a forum which could consider the problems of dependent children in an informal fashion without the necessity of applying the strictness and technicalities that often accompany routine litigation. This is so for the reason that the statute is permeated with indications that in arriving at his conclusion, the Juvenile Judge should in every instance be guided by an effort to consider first and primarily the welfare of the child. While the rights of the parents must, of course, always be observed, nevertheless, these parental prerogatives are to be evaluated in the light of what appears to be the best interests of the juvenile.

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“ * * * [t]hat the parents of the child should be specifically notified that the drastic action of depriving them of their natural right to their child is contemplated and that they should have an opportunity to defend against the contemplated action by the State.”

In the instant case we have not been furnished with a transcript of the proceedings in either the Juvenile Court or the Circuit Court. Thus, for as much as we are advised, it is presumed that the appellants were accorded in the trial court every statutory and constitutional safeguard and right to which they were entitled.

The Juvenile Court order confirms the inappropriateness of appellants’ position. From it, we see there was a full scale hearing with a host of witnesses. Appellants were present throughout the hearings and participated fully in all proceedings. They testified and cross examined witnesses. They produced witnesses in support of their position. They were represented by counsel at all stages except upon the final day of the hearing when they elected to go forward without counsel after having been advised by the Court that a delay would be granted in order that they might obtain other counsel if they wished.

By way of fundamental, we know that habeas corpus proceedings in the trial courts are presumed to be valid and that fundamental rights are safeguarded13 Also, the appellants must demonstrate error if they are to prevail in proceedings of this kind.14 Finally, there is no showing that *42appellants ever raised the question at hand in the Juvenile Court despite their active participation and hence were barred from raising it upon any appellate review.15

In sum, we hold that:

1. The procedural vehicle of habeas corpus was not available as a substitute for an appeal from the Juvenile Court order.

2. Regardless of whether they were denominated as parties it appears on the face of the order that appellants were in substance accorded full due process of law as if they had been named as parties.

3. Appellants have failed to demonstrate error.

Affirmed.

OWEN, J., concurs.

CROSS, C. J., dissents, with opinion.

CROSS, Chief Judge

(dissenting) :

I must respectfully dissent.

The blunderbuss fashion in which the majority couches “its artillery of words,” together with the morass of cases it cites as authority and the obscurity of their application to the question at hand makes me think that this case will become the parent stock from which a motley progeny will spring.

One could not on the record presented to this court without the medium of being clairvoyant obtain that result reached by the majority. The record reveals the simplicity of the factual situation. William L. Hall and his wife, Mary A. Hall, are appealing from an order quashing a writ of habeas corpus and remanding the custody of two minor children to the respondent, the Florida State Department of Public Welfare. In the petition for writ of habeas corpus it is asserted that Lester Leverne Hall, age 2 years, and Lovenia Lynn Hall, age 5 years, are minor children of the petitioners; that the said children are being unlawfully held and detained by the respondent, Florida State Department of Public Welfare; and that they were committed thereto by the Juvenile Court of Orange County as dependent children for subsequent adoption. The petition further alleges that the commitment was not in the best interest and welfare of the children, that the said minor children were committed without the opportunity of having had benefit of counsel. The petition questions the constitutionality of the proceedings under F. S.A. 39, on the basis of not affording the petitioners an opportunity as parties to assert their rights as parents of the infants.

The respondents by return to the writ answered denying the allegations of the petition, except admitting custody pursuant to an order of the juvenile court, which was attached to the return.

At the hearing on the writ and return, the trial judge was of the opinion that the mere fact that the children had been placed in the custody of the Florida State Department of Public Welfare was sufficient for custody to remain with the respondent. He declined and refused to hear any evidence on the question of the welfare of the children or other matters set forth in the petition. The trial court quashed the writ and remanded custody of the two children to the respondent.

The Supreme Court of Florida has long ago determined that when a child is committed to an institution because of the unfitness of its parents to care for it that its custody may be restored to the parents on habeas corpus upon the showing of a removal of the cause which gave rise to the commitment and the parents’ competency and fitness. Hancock v. Dupree, 1930, 100 Fla. 617, 129 So. 822. The Supreme Court *43determined in Hancock v. Dupree that although ordinarily the basis of the issuance of a writ of habeas corpus is an illegal detention, in the case where the writ is sued out for the detention of a child the law is not so much concerned about the illegality of the detention as it is concerned about the welfare of the child. The ascertainment and enforcement of the custody of minor children by the use of the writ of habeas corpus is equitable in its nature, and in such cases the question of personal freedom is not involved, for an infant from humane and obvious reasons is presumed to be in the custody of someone until it has obtained its majority. The court, when asked to restore an infant, is not bound by any mere legal right of parent or guardian but is to give it due weight as a claim founded on human nature and generally equitable and just. The court is in no case bound to deliver a child into the custody of any claimant, but should in the exercise of sound judicial discretion after a careful consideration of the facts leave it in such custody as the welfare of the child at the time appears to require.

This view has been adhered to in the following cases: Arnd’t v. Prose, Fla.1957, 94 So.2d 818; State ex rel. Hicks v. Cain, 1948, 160 Fla. 680, 36 So.2d 275; Fielding v. Highsmith, 1943, 152 Fla. 837, 13 So.2d 208; State ex rel. Weaver v. Hamans, 1935, 118 Fla. 230, 159 So. 31; Maddox v. Barr, 1905, 49 Fla. 182, 38 So. 766.

In the instant case, the trial judge saw fit to refuse to hear any evidence or consider any facts on the question of the welfare of the children. Such in my opinion is a gross abuse of discretion, which error is now compounded by the opinion of the majority affirming the lower court.

Accordingly, I would reverse the order quashing the writ of habeas corpus, and remand the cause to the lower court with directions to take testimony and make a judicial determination as to the best interest and welfare of the children.